Cookie Notice New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Hi Robert. The family had trouble finding people to help them search. There were dolls hanging from trees. However, they only cut pigs throats that way in kosher slaughterhouses. That bear appears to be a Valentines stuffed animal! With the mystery surrounding this case, people have begun to speculate whether or not certain convicted criminals whose names make the news are actually tied to the Delphi murders. Looking at Facebook posts from 2017, its clear that he had reddish hair then and that it could appear curly when short. Is there any chance the Police Officer NM was murdered and it was made to look like suicide? Breaks my heart that the family had to try so hard to get help. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: People are donating lots of money to Delphi podcasters Mike Greeno and Gray Hughes, which is their right. State Police say Kline admitted using the fake profile to get sexual pictures and videos of nearly 100 underage girls. There are photos on his social media from 2015/2016 showing his tattoo, so it cannot be Libby. Im pretty sure Chadwell is a hunter and fisherman. "As Doug Carter said that earlier, if you recall. A massive law enforcement presence arrives, and a double murder investigation begins . Its not his mother and its not the Exorcist girl, its Libby. The Murder Sheet Podcastfirst published the documents, and I-Team 8 has confirmed with a police source that the document is authentic. Our group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far. So he killed them and then left them a Valentines Day gift for Valentines Day! A number of those slaughterhouses around there are indeed operated by Orthodox Jews. As Carter said, This is about power to you.. Just forget it. I guess it hasnt gotten around the town much. LE thinks BG did Evansdale and they think BG is Mr. X, correct. Big Tweety bird eyes. Maybe BG felt he would be able to identify him since he had Crime Scene experience and had him done away with. "Its somewhat bittersweet," Mike Patty, grandfather of Libby, told reporters Monday gathered at the DelphiUnited Methodist Church, "knowing it allows us to move to the next turn, the next chapter. Please correct me if you know otherwise. and our It seems odd. Investigators were seeking a judges permission to search the propertyof Ronald Logan, who owned the land where the two girls were found dead. 4 min read. DELPHI, IN - It was Valentine's Day, 2017, when the corpses of two young teen girls, Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail " Abby" Williams, were found under a train bridge. The FBI agent does say Logans voice is not inconsistent with that of the person in the video.. Clear as day. Libby's grandfather did not want the media to move on from this day. In addition, SPM2 also reported the same dolls hanging from trees that SPM1 report. Any theories? Since then, police have formed a task force for the case, interviewed suspects and followed tips, eventually leading to Allen's arrest. No, but no way is this guy involved. Thanks for posting. So how did you get the crime scene photo?? "I dont feel like I thought I would. I mean, surely folks would know if a well-known, local who became a POI was in on the search? "I literally have no clue how that girl died; I don't know anything, anything to do with it," he told cops. If he isnt the BG, he has some macabre fascination with the murder. Just a thought. If the affidavit remains sealed, Rozzi said, it will make the prosecutors' and the defense attorneys' jobs more difficult since they will have to vaguely allude to allegations during arguments in future hearings, including the scheduled Feb. 17 hearing on whether Allen should be released on bond. It was his first appearance in public since his Oct. 28 arrest and initial hearing. The teens lived in the tiny town about 70 miles northwest of Indianapolis. DELPHI, Ind. What strikes me about this rumor regarding the dolls at the crime scene is that it was mentioned in the leaked Erskine texts that Abby was found placed on the ground like a doll I always wondered why Erskine would describe it like that. Talk about the helpless, right? Indiana State Police made headway on Friday in the 2017 cold case commonly referred to as the Delphi Murders. But there it is, sitting right there, staring us in our faces. Authorities said that Richard M. Allen, 50, of Delphi, Ind., was taken into custody last week and charged with two counts of murder Friday in the killings of Liberty German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, whose bodies were found in 2017. Its nice to have a serious conversation without people chiming in with what if BG is a woman? (one thing I actually read this week) and other absurd speculation. Arrest made in Delphi case:Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. Who were they? He took his wife with him. They sell them on Valentines Day. Theyre kept their main suspect pretty secret until Leaker showed up. Five years ago today, in Delphi, Ind., two best friends, Abigail Williams, 13, and Liberty German, 14, went missing while on a hike through the city's . From the very beginning, I felt that the perp(s) is/are local, and that they knew the girls through the friends and family circles. Yet somehow they didnt come across the bodies until over half a day after the search party started. The photo, which was recovered from Libertys cellphone, showed a man who authorities said was walking on the Delphi Historic Trails and might have participated in the murders, according to a news release. Second thing to consider, From what I understand (per the Prosecutors podcast on the Delphi Murders from a few months ago, which isnt entirely accurate but better than most) they called the official search party off at 11pm or midnight. "Today is not a day to celebrate," Superintendent of the Indiana State Police Doug Carter said. A man being eyed in the unsolved 2017 murders of two teens in Delphi, Indiana, has an "evil streak" and is "absolutely capable" of committing that type of crime, his brother said. And that he also told us that they suspect Mr. X in Evansdale too, right? "If he is leading us on another wild goose chase, then that would be gut-wrenching.". He is a middle-aged man who has thick hair and a baby face and dresses like a teenager. Nearly two years passed before authorities released a second composite sketch in April 2019, this one in stark contrast to the first, which they said more accurately depicted the killer, the Indianapolis Star reported. Prosecutors fueled speculation during Tuesday's hearing that Richard Allen was not alone when they allege he killed Libby German and Abby Williams in early 2017. Makes me wonder if LE did look at him at one point. In a town like Delphi, no one is innocent. After. Libby was 14 when she was murdered in 2017. Are you questioning that claim? An earlier version of this article misstated the date of Logans death. I think this is one of the essential clues in both cases. Not unless they were in a relationship for 2+ years and he got a tattoo of her, which I find unlikely, as Libby would only have been about 13/14 back in 2015/2016. The police didn't take them seriously at the very beginning. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have, and almost the entire community rejects our findings even though they are correct. In other words, its now proven that more than one stuffed animal was left at the scene. Our group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far. "It's obviously significant in some way; I can only just hope that it's for the girls, but we don't know. the detective asked. The latter seems to make most sense, but leaves the question to why the CSI guy lied to everyone, including his colleagues. However, here is my argument for him as the BG: He does resemble the man in the video, particularly the short lower leg area. Thanks for your response: appreciate that. Becky Patty reflected on the importance of Monday's announcement, speaking steadily and calmly, telling reporters she had envisioned a different reaction. - Stunning new documents describe the scene where two young girls were murdered in Delphi, Indiana, five years ago. Delphi Murders Delphi Murders Timeline: Disappearance, Years-Long Manhunt and the Possible Break Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the afternoon of Feb. 13, 2017. The chatter rose again after Allen sat down between his attorneys. Did anyone from the families join the search party? Every time one comes up, everybody flips and says this is the guy!! I dont agree that any of these people are grifters as everyone says. To this day they haven't been found. And were going to stay after it. Most compelling is the tattoo of what is clearly Libbys face with two bones and a skull framing it. Its from a Youtube video of some guy who edited the publicly available helicopter footage. Police have released a new clue in the deaths of two girls a chilling recording of three words. "It certainly seems like it could be significant, but as to what it pertains to, I don't have a clue," said Carrie. McLeland said the public and media interest in the case rekindled after Allen's arrest, and Allen's wife had to flee the community. We also believe that he never lost them in the first place, and they were probably in his pocket the whole time. And you wont by enriching someone who is already wealthy like Hughes. "If it is related, whatever they're looking for, I hope it comes sooner rather than later. Regardless of whether or not members of the search party were told not to report what they saw at the crime scene, if it was as bizarre as it sounds, I dont see how anyone could keep it to themselves. Also who said this crime was over quickly? I would like to know when BP appraised that house and when the fire happened, 2 days 5 days, 2 weeks etc.? Allen shuffled his way to the defense table wearing a yellow jumpsuit, a black ballistic vest and his hands awkwardly chained to his chest left over right. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have actually determined the main suspect in the case, and we have a pretty good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like. Richard Allen, 50, was charged with the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in Delphi, Ind., in February 2017. Carroll County judge recuses himself in Delphi murders. Your email address will not be published. He said hes hiding in plain sight," Patty said. Validated through one of your LE sources? Though police have refused to comment on whether the river search is related to Kline or the Delphi murders, sources close to the investigation indicated toThe Murder Sheetpodcast that it is. Simply because Delphi, Flora fire, and prior fraud/scams, all would be the same crime. Ive looked at associates of the business owners of the Flora house fire, and there are some very interesting names, big names, powerful names, cop names, etc. In Indiana, most defendants are entitled to a reasonable bail that is high enough to ensure the defendant's appearance in court, according to Indiana law. Think about it like this. The members of the search party who found them must still have visions and memories of that tragic day etched in their minds. Mr. X was on the same team BUT was on the other side of the creek at the time, same for Erskin. Trexler was held in custody for a week in place of a $1,200 bond. And on the other side of the fence, single women bitch a lot about us men too. Presumably they were told that they could wreck the case if they told people what they saw. "No. Both of the Pattys are quite insistent that theres no way he did it after all, he was a friend of theirs. He was charged with a probation violation for driving with a suspended. ", The detective then asked: "So why would you worry about your DNA being on that body? We cannot publicly convict someone based on a single document which was not released by investigators. "It would be great to finally get some justice for the girls. Previously:'Today is the day': Update to Delphi murders of Libby and Abby announced by ISP. "I don't want to put too much stock into it until I hear something from law enforcement," she added. OR he passed the girls and tried to speak to them and was rebuffed by Libby which made him angry, and he then began to stalk them. Ive heard he was not on the other side of the creek at all. Allen was taken into custody on Oct. 26 by detectives on the task force after probable cause allowed it. Delphi Murders Update April 26, 2021: You Sure There Was No Stuffed Animal Left at the Crime Scene? We have no idea. The people paying Hughes and Greeno clearly feel that they are getting their moneys worth. On Feb. 13, 2017, the two friends had gone for a hike on the Delphi Historic Trails and were reported missing by their families when they did not return home that afternoon. They are asking that anyone who recognizes the man in this photo to call the Carroll County Sheriff's Department at 765-564-2413, the Delphi Police Department at 765-564-2345 or the Indiana . How could these LE men stomach watching Mr X strut around town, attending press conferences, etc? This is especially important with the heinous murders of Abby and Libby. How do we help.". Its a pretty big coincidence that both these towns have a Tyson pork processing plant nearby. Yes it is very important that there is a Tyson plant nearby in both of the crimes. "I don't know what they're looking for it could be a weapon, it could be a laptop, it could be something as small as a trophy from the murders - it could be anything. Theyre seeing whatever they want to see in him. Very interesting. Indiana State Police plan a Monday morning news conference to update the investigation of the Delphi murders and who might have killed Libby German and . "While theres somebody thats been arrested, our lives for five and a half years have been in a search mode and thats what weve done. The 38-year-old was arrested in September 2015 on a warrant for operating a vehicle while intoxicated and driving while intoxicated with a controlled substance. We will refer to this new informant as SPM2 for Search Party Member 2. Either LE or coroner: It was all over by 3:30 PM.. "We were called in on Wednesday to tell us they had detained somebody, so weve had a couple more days to process this," Becky Patty said. Also a lot of what is being sad about this guy are just flat out straight up lies. 2023 CIRCLE CITY BROADCASTING I, LLC. Im not sure how they phrased it of they told, ordered or threatened them to not reveal what they saw. It describes his activity the day the girls went missing. I'm assuming LE must "ask them" or straight out tell them to keep such information strictly to themselves for the sake of the on-going investigation. Im almost 100% the Flora case is connected to the Delphi case. Allen's defense has not yet filed a rebuttal argument to the motion for a gag order, and Gull has not yet published an order on the motion. In the audio, police announced, a male voice appears to say Down the hill. Officials offered a download of the audio and asked anyone who recognized the voice to send in a tip. Love your writing and insights. He himself is then arrested for trying to rape/kill a nine year old. To have enough presence of mind to activate that video system on her cellphone, to record what we believe is criminal behavior thats about to occur.. But get this. And the new one we just talked to is saying that she was told not to tell anyone, but the scene was bugging and eating away at her so much that she just had to spill finally. Our understanding also is that he never even called her to have her bring the keys. Allen pleaded not guilty in a preliminary hearing, Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said in a news conference Monday. ", Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. DELPHI, Ind. Carroll County prosecutor Nick McLeland give update on the Delphi murders. Well, to answer your question, Mr. X was at that 2019 press conference wearing the exact same hat that BG wears in that film. On Sunday, Patty posted a photo of Liberty near a pool, a beach towel tied around her like a cape with the caption: Fitting., After Mondays news conference, Kelsi German, Libertys sister, said in a tweet: Oct. LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- New details have been released in the case of two young girls found murdered in Indiana five years ago. Id assume the kind that is foggy? The time will come when additional details can be released, but again today is not that day, Indiana State Police Superintendent Douglas Carter said. His complaint is typical of tens of millions of single men his age in the US today. AUTHORITIES have revealed chilling new details linked to the unsolved Delphi "Snapchat murders" of two best friends. He certainly didnt sound suicidal in his retirement announcement from Monticello in Nov 2019. The family had trouble finding people to help them search. (WISH) People in Delphi say the community is far from closure despite an arrest announcement in the 2017 murders of two girls, Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby . If not and it is him, did he know who THEY were? Not much of Allen and his arrest is known as most of the case-related documents are under seal. And lets keep that open out there, keep that flowing, keep the information coming in.". The search warrant request came just over two weeks after ISP investigators interviewed Kegan Kline, the man they say was behind the Anthony_Shots social media accounts. I just cant imagine my peers posting things like that. I generally accept it however because to assume otherwise would be to assume that the entire police force and townsfolk who were in the search party waited longer than what made sense. Officials did not discuss the timeline of events or evidence that led to Allens arrest, saying only that a judge determined that there was probable cause. Wouldnt LE and Fire officials have kept a list of folks who participated in the search? Based on his posts, he does appear to have some animosity towards young women, and he is an oversharer. One of those suspects was John Miller, convicted in 2018 for a 1988 murder of an 8-year-old girl. These two SPMs arrived at these conclusions independently. Instead he was with the team that found the bodies. Could you imagine, all the accomplices connected? WISH-TV was the first to break the story connecting Kline to the Anthony Shots social media profile in Dec. 2021. Carroll County prosecutor Nick McLeland give update on the Delphi murders. He was released on September 8, court records show. The original female search party member (SPM1) also spoke independently with another member of my team, a woman. His behavior and his videos are being looked over with a toothcomb and theyre getting it all wrong. It looks like a stuffed holiday (Christmas) Tweety bird to me. How many more than one? Begs the question, WTF were they up to? See how people are reading too much into this guy? Prosecutors fueled speculation during Tuesday's hearing that Richard Allen was not alone when they allege he killed Libby German and Abby Williams in early 2017. Its just conjecture," he said in rebuttal to McLeland's argument. Its too convenient that BP appraised the house, like you said, she is connected to 6 murdered childrenMy theory? The tip line number is 1-844-459-5786. Lilly caps cost of insulin at $35 a month, bringing relief for Hoosiers, Paramount Englewood exceeding diversity, academic norms, Marion County Traffic Court closing in May, IMPD releases bodycam footage of January shooting involving 3 officers. I literally have no clue how that girl died; I don't know anything, anything to do with it. 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