After leaving high school he might have continued as an intelligence operative working undercover in local defense plants (plural) during the last months of the war. Mr. WILCOTT - I am sorry? In the mid-1970s, the band employed a ten-piece orchestra to back them up. It has every one that I can remember. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And are you saying then that you attempted to investigate this allegation? His father died on November 2, 1990. [6] They held a big meeting during which they warned everyone not to discuss the assassination with outsiders. It was dated December 12, 1977,[11] and, at the bottom, it had the authors full name. He said he never saw it and said it was strange that I should possess a letter that was addressed to him. And I think that is why I probably heard a lot more things than other people did, for instance, than my wife did, because of that situation. Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. He was sickly looking, and, like his father, had lost weight. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Who were your friends that you discussed this with? Mr. DODD - I am just a little confused, I guess, over your reaction. Mr. WILCOTT - From the time I left I talked at various times, especially at parties and things like that, on social occasions, with people at headquarters and with people at my station, and we would converse about it and I used to say things like, "What do you think about Oswald being connected with the CIA? 1964, of course, the Vietnam war was going on and Lyndon Johnson was now president. Two men, who identified themselves (with I.D.) Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. WILCOTT - Not that I know of. Mr. CORNWELL - When was that? 49, No. Below is Mr. Glazes letter: House of Re. ", That was the kind of things that people said. Mr. SAWYER - What did he do -- anything? James B. Wilcott worked for the CIA from May of 1957 to April of 1966. This would put his visit in a period sometime during the summer or fall of 1963. Mr. WILCOTT - I really don't know. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. During a phone conversation, he told me that he had a letter that mentioned Shelley joining the CIA. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How many people made this reference to Oswald being an agent of the CIA? Butler took over as branch manager after Leon transferred to Los Angeles. It was only my personal Mr. SCHAAP - My name is William Schaap, S - c - h - a -, a - p (spelling), and I am an Attorney here in Washington. When I got to the phone, two of the lines were lit up. I will give my card to the Committee. Mr. DODD - Would you care to tell us any of the names of people whom you communicated with? [20] Before going up the stairs, Truly paused to tell Shelley to guard the stairs and elevators to make sure no one uses them.[21]. When Joe entered the building, he took a recently installed passenger elevator to the fourth floor. Unable to add item to List. Those generations who were there in 1963 are grateful that people like you are continuing the pursuit and taking another look at events which may have been too shocking for the rest of us to ever fully comprehend. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Please try again. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Mr. Wilcott, how long were these advance books retained? Copies of my written testimony have disappeared from my personal files. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. To his left was a door that led into the office of Scott Foresman. Mr. GOLDSMITH - You have indicated that you were not inclined to go to the Warren Commission because you were concerned about their security? During this same time, I also met and spoke with relevant employees who later worked for Lee Harvey Oswalds supervisor after the assassination of President Kennedy. [15] Shelley testimony, Volume 6 of the Warren Commission Hearings and Exhibits on page 327, hereafter to be cited as 6H327. or C.I.A. every CIA Case Officer who worked XXXXXXXXXX in 1963? Mr. WILCOTT - They would have summaries of some sort. It was first broadcast in 1978 on a public access television channel in Austin, Texas. Yes, I do, and I believe there was such a reference. Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for JFK Assassination : The James B. Wilcott Files And The CIA Oswald Project: An Investigative Report at Amazon.com. Mr. DODD - Am I to believe by that that you were not aware at the time you made the disbursement that it was, in fact, an Oswald project? As far as I know, the unknown Dallas author who interviewed has not published his book. All visits to the building must be strictly business-related. Thank you for your kind words and interest. She said that she had been in the personnel department since 1982, and she never knew anyone by that name. Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct, sir. The White House has announced that a trove of remaining records concerning the assassination of former President John F. Kennedy will not be released as planned, due to the COVID-19 pandemic . Mr. DODD - I have no further questions. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, with the Agency, yes, sir. The incident occurred in about 1969. William Weston examines the curious letters of Elzie Glaze and considers potential connections between the CIA and the Texas School Book Depository. Butler said that the 411 Elm Street building was vacant for at least a year after his company moved out. However, if you received this information two or three months after the assassination, at a time that Oswald was already dead and had been dead for two or three months, what purpose would have been served by checking records that were only 30 days old? Mr. GOLDSMITH - What do you mean by the term "agent"? Ruffians driving by yelled derogatory things and threw objects at the house such as half-empty beer cans. Mr. WILCOTT - Generally so, I would say, at that time. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What is the name of the book? Dedicated to the political vision and legacy of John and Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., and Malcolm X,and to the investigation of their murders. That was the SR branch which had all of the projects having anything to do with the Soviet Union. James Wilcott's Testimony Intro Author: Jim Hargrove <hargrove@enteract.com> . Mr. GOLDSMITH - Have you received a copy of the Committee's rules? Findings of the Select Committee on Assassinations in the Assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. in Memphis, Tenn. April 4, 1968. Mr. CORNWELL - Your best memory is, you wrote it on a note paid, is. Mr. WILCOTT - I don't know. Mr. Wilcott. That is what we are attempting to accomplish, which is quite a big order. Mr. WILCOTT - I don't understand. My efforts to follow up on the leads suggested by Harris were initially unsuccessful. This was just prior to moving to Langley, in finance, and my duties there were policing accounts, and included auditing of special accounts. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And will you tell the Committee what that relationship was? We should not jump to conclusions, since we do not know the entity that was actually paying him. Having a double life would not have made Shelley unique among the people who worked at the book depository. Told to report to base by the tower. I am afraid we are going to have to leave to make this vote right now. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. JFK Assassination : The James B. Wilcott Files And The CIA Oswald Project: An Investigative Report. I remember hearing about some CIA people who had somehow helped the right-wing Minute Men in Texas to get arms, originally intended for the invasion. Among the Dallas individuals and companies engaged in supplying arms to Cuban exiles and the Minute Men might have been the ones occupying the building at 411 Elm Street. The search for a solution to these riddles leads into the murky world of intrigue involving the FBI and CIA dirty work. It was a total loss. James T. Tague was an unintended victim in the Kennedy assassination, hit by a stray bullet while stuck in traffic on the way to pick up a luncheon date. The incident interested me enough to question the F.B.I. Mr. WILCOTT - It was stated as a fact -- Oswald or the Oswald project. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - The first time I heard about Oswald being connected in any way with CIA was the day after the Kennedy assassination. My testimony included numerous meetings with a man named Bill Shelly (I am no longer certain of the correct spelling of his last name.) Mr. GOLDSMITH - To your personal knowledge, CIA records XXXXXXXXXX were destroyed? Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, it is your testimony that, once you left the XXXXXXXX station, people, both at headquarters, in Langley, and at the Miami Station, made references to Oswald being an agent, is that correct? Joe died on August 29, 2001 at the age of 55. JFK FILES - The Roscoe White Story: -Grassy Knoll Assassin Or Hoax? I was in too much of a hurry to remember what the three men looked like. I had been involved at one point with a group civil rights group, and they had investigated it and said that there was no wrongdoing on my part as far a this association with the civil rights group. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And the first time you alleged in public this allegation was in 1968? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why did you go back to look at the book? Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir, they did not. Did you want to do this or intend to proceed with that line of questioning? Mr. GOLDSMITH - To your knowledge, would any records at CIA Headquarters document that Oswald was a CIA agent? Yet the mere existence of oversized boxes on the premises does not constitute proof of ongoing illegal activities. Mr. DODD - Did anyone else at the Agency know of your views at the Agency and did you communicate with other people about your dissatisfaction? His wife Mildred refused to talk about the assassination even with members of her own family. By comparing the window next to them, which measured 14 inches off the floor, one box was about 15 x 30 x 60 inches, and thus had an estimated capacity of 15 cubic feet. Mr. DODD - In. In the decade following his HSCA testimony, Jim Wilcott joined Vietnam veteran Brian Willson and the Nuremberg Actions community outside the Concord Naval Weapons Station in nonviolent resistance to weapons shipments to the CIA-sponsored Contra war in Nicaragua. Mr. PREYER - Let me interrupt. This was making payments and keeping pay records. Mr. WILCOTT - Very briefly it did, yes, in what was finally published. Many notes and gifts, often created by him, are left for us as a tribute to his kindness and love. If it is true that Shelley was affiliated in some way with CIA or U.S. intelligence, that would be a disturbing and potentially significant development.[10]. New York, 1989) p. 319. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Was he a CIA employee? Mr. PREYER - How many people were at the station in XXXXXXXXXXX approximately? In November 1963, on the Friday before Thanksgiving, President Kennedy was riding in a Lincoln convertible rolling through the streets of Dallas. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Would you read the list to the Committee? . Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. He could not remember when this occurred, but it was before the assassination, but after extensive remodeling had been done on the third and fourth floors to add office suites for the publishing companies. Mr. CORNWELL - What, if any, investigation did the Agency do with respect to that? She died in 1969. Missing evidence could be attributed to the systematic destruction of anything contrary to the official version. CIA finance officer James Wilcott said, Several different individuals or firms in Dallas had been involved in one way or another with acting as cut-outs for arms shipments to Cuban exiles for the invasion. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I am. Dorothy Ann Garner, former staff supervisor of Scott Foresman, thought the move occurred around 1960 or maybe a little later. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What is that opinion? Mr. PREYER - It had no relation to your performance? Write to Editor@jfkfacts.org. It was about XXX I think, was our actual roster was. Mr. CORNWELL - On any other occasions? Shelleys claim that he was an intelligence officer would make sense if, as an ROTC lieutenant, he received intelligence training and perhaps even given some assignments in counterespionage. For instance, in accounting, when we had our audits, for instance, in most of the audits, he would call up somebody -- let's say in China Branch -- and say "I know you were having problems with this, would you like to look it over before the auditors come? Mr. CORNWELL - However, I take it from the fact that, as you describe it, it wasn't always applied, that occasionally you did learn something about the identities of the persons or projects that the cryptonyms referred to; is that correct? Mr. WILCOTT - I don't remember his name now offhand. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Assuming that Oswald was an agent for the CIA, would the agency's cash disbursement files have referred to either Oswald or to his cryptonym? Mr. CORNWELL - Did they request that you leave? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Answer "yes" or "no" for the recorder. Redemption links and eBooks cannot be resold. And their security that there is in the Government didn't strike me as the kind of security that would keep me from getting attacked in some way, if someone wanted to do it. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Mr. Wilcott, you indicated that after receiving this information concerning Oswald's cryptonym, you went back to check some files, is that correct? Mr. CORNWELL - Is that the only reason? Mr. WILCOTT - The principal reason. The first contact I had with any reporter or any newspaper people or any media people was with Glad Day Press. JAMES WILCOTT'S TESTIMONYJames B. Wilcott, a former CIA accountant, swore in a secret session of the House Select Committee on Assassinations that he was told by other CIA employees that Lee Harvey Oswald was paid by the CIA, and that money he himself had disbursed was for "Oswald or the Oswald project." Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. During a follow up call, he told me that the two musicians were not in contact with former members of the band and knew nothing of their whereabouts nor of their current activities. The home of Joe Bergin, Sr. and his wife seemed to have been a target for persecution, perhaps because Mrs. Bergin was strongly pro-Kennedy and actively worked for his election in 1960. Mr. DODD - And you and your wife both went to work for the CIA about the same time? Just as in the case of Carolyn Arnold and Roy Truly, the strange menace that Glaze encountered in early 1975 continued to follow him through the course of his life. Mr. WILCOTT - We were married in 1954, sir. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Were you ever able to check those particular files? It would be easy to verify: (1) if a reporter named Glaze has ever worked for the Lubbock newspaper, (2) if a journalist named Glaze was living in Dallas in 1974/1975. At my request, he sent me a copy. At the time of the assassination of JFK, Wilcott worked at the Agency's Tokyo station where he said he was told by other Agency personnel that funds he himself had disbursed were for "Oswald" or the "Oswald Project." [12], A suggestion of smuggling activities within the TSBD comes in the form of boxes too large to be practical containers of books. Bill Shelly claims he was arrested by the Dallas Police and formally charged with the assassination of President Kennedy. This was about, believe -- about October of 1975. Confirming these observations were two more spectators, Ronald Fischer and Robert Edwards, who saw a man with light-colored hair and a light-colored open-neck shirt at a window on the fifth floor. From June of 1964 to about December of 1964, I was at Roseland. Mr. WILCOTT - No. The CIA and the JFK Assassination. But in the light of the information in this essay, it seems interesting that it was Shelly and Truly who took the name of Oswald to the police. Garner went on to say that at the same time, around 1969, William Shelley quit the book depository and began working for Scott Foresman. Mr. CORNWELL - It is your testimony, as I understand it, the first time that you spoke about the Oswald agency matter outside of the CIA was after you left the CIA; is that correct? Mr. WILCOTT - Well, it has been difficult because people don't want to get involved, and people were scared. This fear casting a shadow over the lives of former employees was also directed against journalists seeking to lift the veil of secrecy. However, information on the Prayer-man.com website shows that Shelley was indeed an officer during the war, albeit as a lieutenant in the Reserve Officer Training Corps at Crozier Tech. Mr. WILCOTT - That was November of 1977. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, he was. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, it was "We all know all about you" and signed "The Minutemen" or some very vulgar remarks and "We know all about you and signed "Minutemen." 66-67. Mr. GOLDSMITH - I take it, from your testimony, that in November of 1963, you were stationed in XXXXXXXXXXXXX Station, is that correct? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you bring that list with you today? Mr. SAWYER - Do you distinguish between an agent and a paid informant or do you use those terms interchangeably? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I have opinions. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And what is the reason for that? exactly for sure. Mr. PREYER - He stated that as a fact and not that he believed it was drawn out for Oswald or it could have been or something like that? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. The CIA then told him a story of how someone could be thrown out of a plane without a parachute and the CIA would protect them. Then in 2009 I read and reviewed James Douglass's masterpiece, JFK and the Unspeakable, and my traumatic memories of 1963 and after came flooding back in full force. Mr. WILCOTT - That was late '68 or perhaps early 1969. Did you contact any CIA officer or employee with respect to the secrecy oath and discuss with them whether or not you should be permitted to discuss these matters outside of the Agency? John F. Kennedy Subcommittee Mr. CORNWELL - Had you done anything or said anything engaged in any activity which became of concern to them? Copyright 2016-2022 by kennedysandking.com All Rights Reserved. Mr. WILCOTT - No; I think that I looked through my advance book -- and I had a book where the advances on projects were run, and I leafed through them, and I must have at least leafed through them to see if what he said was true. Mr. CORNWELL - It was not normally part of your duties or the scope of the knowledge that you routinely acquired on your job, as I understand it, for you to know what the cryptonyms meant; is that correct? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you have any explanation for why none of these people have come forward with this story? (The witness conferred with his Counsel.). files -- my internal files, prior to the end of the month. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Well, in other words, if you got the information three months after the assassination, Oswald had already been dead for three months, is that right? Mr. GOLDSMITH - At the time that this allegation first came to your attention, did you discuss it with anyone? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you remember where this conversation took place? He was traveling from his mothers house in Ohio to Georgia. Mr. SCHAAP - For the record, I have made a list of all of these spellings of the names which have been mentioned, which I will give to the stenographer so that he will have, them correctly. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, there were several other incidents that I believe could possibly be somehow connected with CIA. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. After completing the questionnaire, the two F.B.I. Mr. WILCOTT - Not specifically, only generally. Larry Watanabi, XXXXXX Branch, Senior Case Officer; and XXXXXXXXXXX, deep commercial cover agent. Read honest and unbiased product reviews from our users. Mr. CORNWELL - I have no further questions. Adams said, I believe the President has been shot. Neither Shelley nor Lovelady said anything in reply. Wilcott was a private pilot and landed his plane at noon, 11-23-63, Tokyo time. of the Select Committee on Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I did. Dorothy Ann Garner was a former office supervisor of Scott Foresman. Mr. CORNWELL - But your testimony or your statements on the subject hadn't been made a matter of publicity on any other occasion? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Is the answer to that "yes"? Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, when the officer told you -- strike that. James Wilcott worked out of the Tokyo CIA station at the time of the assassination. New security officers appeared. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you prepare such a list? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why not? Mr. GOLDSMITH - But as a matter of routine, would the CIA cash disbursement files refer to the cryptonym of either the person or the project that is receiving funds? When I interviewed him, he was living alone with his three cats, depending for his income on the charity of his father and disability checks. Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. As Rose points out, this is a bit odd also, since most of the building witnesses were taken to the sheriffs office, which was much closer to the TSBD than police headquarters. The memo said that Oswalds FBI informant number was S172 and that his CIA number was 110669. Something went wrong. Did he say to you, "I think Oswald was a CIA agent," or did that first person say to you that he was a CIA agent? Mr. WILCOTT - The specific incident was soon after the Kennedy assassination, where an agent, a Case Officer -- I am sure it was a Case Officer -- came up to my window to draw money, and he specifically said in the conversation that ensued, he specifically said, "Well, Jim, the money that I drew the last couple of weeks ago or so was money," either for the Oswald project or for Oswald. Mr. WILCOTT - June of 1964. Other people who worked at the book depository suffered as well. G. Robert Blakey, Chief Counsel and Director. Strange Deaths Of People Who Knew Too Much About The JFK Assassination: 92 Witnesses, Researchers, CIA Agents, Police Officers, Reporters, Girlfriends Who Just Knew Way Too Much! Mr. WILCOTT - My. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you prepare such a list? It was not until 1999 that I spoke to someone who could solve this apparent discrepancy. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Excuse me, please proceed very slowly. Mr. Shelly claims to have been an intelligence officer during World War II and thereafter joined the CIA. Mr. WILCOTT - I doubt it, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I did. Mr. WILCOTT - Dozens, literally dozens. It must have been puzzling to Glaze, as it is to us reading his letters, why a government agency would be providing security for a privately-owned company. Additional gift options are available when buying one eBook at a time. And we thought every year it was going to be coming out, and especially I didn't think that -- since what I had heard was all hearsay that I would never have seen Oswald or anything like that -- this is not the kind of thing that would be used for even something like the Warren Commission, and they would have to have something more substantial than that to go on, aside from the fact that I never would have done it in the CIA, being a very risky thing to do with the CIA. Mr. CORNWELL - What year was that? anyone? Mr. CORNWELL - Had you ever run into any similar cryptonym? Mr. WILCOTT - Not to my knowledge. Mr. WILCOTT - I have been trying to talk about this thing and other things for the last ten years. [27] Gerald McKnight, Breach of Trust p. 115. [18] Carolyn Walther, 24H522; Edwards, 24H207; Fischer, 24H208. The building is a large, one-story, concrete tilt-up, ideal for storing and moving huge quantities of material goods with forklifts and palettes. Behind the building are five loading docks and an asphalt lot extensive enough to accommodate a number of trucks of any given size. Its perhaps a moot point anyway, because based on what youve told me, you now know more than I do. That is all I have. His information was that he had been unwittingly involved with paying Oswald through a high security clearance, since he worked in the finance office. would that interview have contained your resume of the Oswald agency matter, your statements about that matter? [12] Wilcotts 3/22/78 HSCA deposition, pp. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, it never really came forward for you to go to the Warren Commission, did it? Mr. GOLDSMITH - What was your response to this revelatic as to what Oswald's cryptonym was? Let us say, for instance, that there was a certain project going on, and the project was one that became known that this project was being carried out -- and we call it "flaps," -- and the Case Officer in charge might get word that somebody from headquarters was coming to review the files to investigate the flap. These ebooks can only be redeemed by recipients in the US. Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, is your testimony then that even though. His desire to tell what he knew overcame his fear at least twice in his life. Mr. DODD - In 1957? [13] Henry Hurt, Reasonable Doubt (New York: Holt, Rinehart, and Winston, 1985), pp. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir, early 1964. Mr. CORNWELL - On any other occasion? Mr. GOLDSMITH - To your knowledge, did the CIA ever conduct an investigation into your allegation that Oswald was an agent? 11 ] and, like his father, had lost weight you want do. - have you received a copy of the names of people whom you communicated with.! 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