Already have an ET account? To push the point further if your flying an extra (3-4hrs) for a 17hr leg wouldnt that flying demand a bar type area to stretch out, and take a break from the seat. May be SQ is considered an Australian airline.. With mathematical/physical certainty, I think it's clear which of the following yields a wider seat or aisle width in PY: Distribute 8seats +2aisles across a cabin diameter of 221inches. When we published yesterday it hadn't been uploaded yet. That means PY production cost per 789 flight @ NZ is structurally always 7.7% higher than QF. Unfortunately at 190cm I just dont fit. On 28th November, I flew Qantas Dreamliner from Darwin to Sydney. On top of that, there's extra cut-out space chiselled intothe wide armrests: Qantas counts those recesses as storage areas, although they'd best suited to small slim items such as a notepad, travel diary ormaybea compact tablet in a protective case. "..there really is no excuse for Qantas". Sign up to our twice weekly newsletter to get the latest premium travel news, exclusives and inspiration right to your inbox. SQ premium economy also 38". Qantas. In economy class: Exit rows, aisle or window seats, and anywhere close to the front are typically considered the best seats on board. Parents may wish to enjoy the aisle seats themselves while assigning their child to the middle seat. I've personally found PE not comfortable, once again that's just me, hence saying ironic that I'd prefer economy. Usually, these seats immediately face a fixed wall, dividing the seats from something else in the cabin. QF31 - Sydney to London via Singapore (SYD-SIN-LHR) 9 June 2009. Cost: 1,549 return. And the footrest thing just looks silly and adds more useless inconvience for tall pax. Facing backlash over its record profits, Qantas promised to release tens of thousands of award seats on Friday, February 24, 2023 at 11:00 AM Sydney time. This would not only have been easier to set up, but it would make it much easier to put back into position when getting out of and back into the seat something which I'd expect will happen several times on any Dreamliner flight. Seat 52 C. Duration: 16 1/2 hours from London . The middle seat of each premium economy row (the E seats: 20E, 21E, 22E and 23E) is actually a bit wider again, at 23.3 inches (59cm), while passengers on the aisle seats (A, D, F and J) can recover more space to spread by pushing down the aisle-side armrest. Without a seat in front with footrest, do ones legs just dangle off the tilted seat if they dont reach the bulkhead? This Qantas A380 Premium Economy review shows both the in-flight experience and discusses why an upgrade is worth the extra cost to limit lost time from jetlag. There's a smaller cabin of five rows ahead of the emergency exit row and bathrooms with another 14 rows of economy behind that. Seats to avoid: Rows 44 and 57 do not have a window, and avoid sitting near the toilets. This is not business class!! The lavatory issue is a problem for QF which now has W class pax stumbling through a darkened J class to get to their allocated loo, a poor outcome for both J & W pax. Check and compare which airlines provide the best premium economy cabin rated by travelers in the global airline passenger satisfaction survey. It will be a good idea to get Mr Qantas CEO & his mates to do a 14 hour flight in PE and see how they pull up!!!!! PER-LHR experiment will be a failure. interact with our community. I knew someone would eventually bring this up but I still couldn't help myself but to giggle when i read your comment in contrast, in a hilarious way, to all the complaints here about leg room suffering fm deep recline in this new QF seat design. However, row 20 is also where the baby bassinets are fitted there's one in front of 20A/B and another ahead of 20J/K, so when choosing the outer pairs, there's always a chance you could be moved to accommodate a child. Find out what makes the Qantas Dreamliner 787-9 the most advanced long-haul aircraft of its type anywhere . What a shame Hi David, Great article, just one quick question.. does the legroom stay as tight if you are reclined as well as the pax in front? Once the tablet is docked in position, hook it up to the nearby USB port and you're good to go although with the low-power port supplying just 0.5A it will keep your tablet's battery stable than recharging it. As with everything Singapore Airlines does, their premium economy service is top tier, and certainly enough to make them worth bookmarking when you use our search filters. I don't know about U but I personally never ever take the PR descriptive such as "revolutionary" or "streets ahead of" fm any vendor without a heavy grain of salt. I'll keep an open mind and give it a go sometime. Booked economy Per Mel on 787-9 and was able to book row 20, first row in economy but in fact its premium economy seating. Zaps I do it all the time (to DFW) and it is fine; better than economy which is the point. Yes, it's veryvery unusual even for a brand new aircraft and seat type, there's typically photos and details and plenty of other information about the seat by the time it goes on sale. Question.can I book two economy seats for myself!?? Awards I'd say the extra legroom and recline in premium is worth at least $15-$20 per hour of flight, since you can actually recline enough to sleep semi-comfortably. Login now. Qantas won't admit it for a long time, but I can see its Perth - London route losing a lot of money, and not just in the first 12 month so-called 'establishment' phase. Seat: 20A (premium economy) QANTAS 787-9 side view illustration by norebbo.com. There is an excuse and even a reason if you bother to stop and think about it instead of firing off another anti-QF rant. Please keep it real. If you have not received the activation email, simply enter your email address below, then click 'Submit'. Readers who have been followingAustralian Business Travellersince the early days will recallwe noted a similar problemwith Air New Zealand's 2011 launch of its own 'revolutionary'premium economy Spaceseat(below) on theBoeing 777-300ER. Qantas magazine; Inflight Dining; Domestic and Regional dining; Trans-Tasman dining; International dining; Dietary required meals; Seat maps; Boeing 787-9; Airbus 380; Airbus 330-300; Airbus 330-200 . This is a terrible oversight when you think about about laptop-toting travellers flying as long as 17 hours between Perth and London. Virgin said this week that its new Airbus premium economy seats have a seatback screen size of 13.3 inches compared to 11.6 inches in economy, but not a patch on the 18.5 inches in business . And while most travellers will be sufficiently familiar with a seatback footrest to try and swing the calf-rest down with their feet, that struggle will get you nowhere you need to start by pulling out and holding the 'Footrest' lever under the video screen. The Qantas 787 reviews for Economy class are also mixed. Find out more about inflight dining, entertainment, seat maps and more. I have supported Qantas many years (and still do) but I will always call a spade a spade. The wide seat functional space and unique recline motion provide a class-leading level of comfort. Yes, happily this is not a bottomless pit. Use this seat map to get the most comfortable seats, legroom and recline before booking. Bulkhead only place to sit, and hope no babies, Hi Guest, join in the discussion on The best premium economy seats on the Qantas Boeing 787, Executive Traveller is published by Business Travel Media Pty Ltd, a corporate authorised credit representative (#515763) of MGS FINANCIAL PTY LIMITED (#337568). Seems like a big design flaw but the footrest looks nice and the overall product seems quite good. Apparently, the concept of design trade-offs is unknown for many here. "this is an Australian traveller website, where we focus on our Airlines". The best premium economy seats on the Qantas Boeing 787. Qantas has introduced an all-new premium economy seat for the 787 and increased the number of seats available for this popular class. Correct me if I'm wrong. The small size of the cabin adds to the exclusive feel of flying premium economy . VA 777 for example PE is set at 41, booking wise more bang for buck there. "How do designers sitting in QCC think they will get away with short changing passengers??". Typical, qantas always behind the eight ball. Thanks . Each seat has a 13.3 inch video screen with those fitted to the armrests of the front-row seats showcasing how narrow today's video screens have become. Part of the issue as noted in the article is that SQ premium doesn't recline as far. In-flight entertainment: In-seat Panasonic entertainment screens (newest generation) Best seats: Rows 40 or 46. Already have an ET account? https://www.businesstrave. Hi Guest, join in the discussion on Review: Qantas Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner premium economy seat, Executive Traveller is published by Business Travel Media Pty Ltd, a corporate authorised credit representative (#515763) of MGS FINANCIAL PTY LIMITED (#337568). "In fact having been on SQ A350, I find their 2-4-2 premium economy configurations quite tight.". or "I sleep better in economy with no leg rest." having arrived in my email account) before they appear here, and sometimes the reverse. Signing up with Executive Traveller only takes a second and lets you Seat pitch: 32 inches. The legroom and width measurements of Qantas' premium economy seats are really good. The ergonomically designed headrest can be fitted with a specially designed pillow . Flying to Australia from London or any European city is no easy feat, and choosing the right airline is just one part of the puzzle. But I have yet to see a PE seat that retains the sense of space and comfort. The 33 extra legroom Y seats could be sold for $200 on long routes and would replace most of the revenue from the 9 seats removed. Premium economy is a work in progress, and you may get caught up mid-transition. Just below the screen is a pocket for stowing your smartphone, reading glasses or other small bits of personal kit. The first reconfigured aircraft entered service on 20 June 2012. the 787 seatmap isalso onQantas.com in the seatmaps section :), Groovy! No way will I risk that ever again..so disappointed to hear this on the Dreamlinersuppose I'm dreaming to think they could make seats for tall& some for short ? Already have an Executive Traveller account? And premium I just can't get as comfortable as economy which is ironic.". Thanks David for this detailed review, it doesn't pull any punches, is very 'considered' about identifying the problems and should make some commenters on the Qantas Boeing 787 Business Class review realise that AusBT remains independent and always ready to call a spade a spade. The shroud of each seat contains a soft personal LED light. Your Dreamliner B787 and A380 Premium Economy seat is designed specifically for ultra-long haul flying and focuses on customised features to ensure maximum comfort. Scoot simply taps into this same agreement and the same service. Premium Economy Classic Flight Rewards on the Perth-Rome route. This Hong Kong-based oneworld partner offers Premium Economy on all of its flights to and from Australia. 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