5)Elvis Costello-Alison, and I cannot name another song. Not quite sure. Also, Phil Spector is probably the 'meanest' of all the HOFers in that he's a criminally insane psychopath who was unhinged for decades before murdering Lana Clarkson (a classic example being him bringing a bag of coins to a divorce hearing to make his first alimony payment to Ronnie Spector as well as his repeated assaults and death threats to her). Public Enemy (Level 4) Rush (middle 4th) Just being a major influence on Bob Dylan alone, and really almost the entirety of folk-rock should at the very least put her midway up, probably higher, imho. Etta James: 9/10 Frank Zappa: 9/10 3)John Lennon-Imagine being so overrated, it isn't hard to do, too much love being in the Beatles, but that should have been all for you. Arvydas Sabonis, 98. 4/10 = Marginal 14. Kate Bush (Level 1) Crosby, Stills & Nash (Level 2) NWA pulls a 2 and everyone else a 1. -I'll say Bobby Darin never had a drug problem (that I know of), branched out into different styles, even helped his fellow performers learn how to do their own taxes during the Caravan Of Stars tours. N.W.A: 9/10 Tom Chambers, 109. Donovan There have been 9 completed seasons since then, so I added 14 new players for a total of 110. http://whoisbigger.com/entity/Category:Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame_inductees Most civilized inductee? Level 1: 15. The Moonglows: 6/10 Simmons believes that Nolan Ryan was a Tier 4 Baseball HoFer, while acknowledging that several people wouldn't put Nolan Ryan in the Hall at all. Some injury issues, but overblown. Joan Jett is currently in last place for her solo career. 2002 The Ramones are a case in point. Here is Simmons' explanation of the idea . Yes, it's personal. He's an 11-time All-Star (everyone with 8 or more appearances is in the actual hall) and was the 3rd best player on two Champs and two Finalists. Duran Duran (Level 1 or 2) Bon Jovi- 1 "According to several websites, the Miracles are one of the most oft-covered groups in recorded history and the most covered Motown group ever. And I'd love to invent a 0 just for Def Leppard. Depeche Mode-Level 2 In the pilot episode of TBOB Rewatchables, recorded earlier this year on The Bill Simmons Podcast, Bill re-lives that historic night with The Ringers Chris Ryan and Joe House. 2008 The Cars Admittedly quite bad, but he's already represented without the halo effect. 2/10 = Failure By kbarbs37. Journey Come on guys, let's put MJ in Level 5. Finished season 1 of it, its not over. They were rarely acclaimed critically and/or commercially. The Rolling Stones 5 Argument could be made for a level 5, on the par with James Brown for a mid-career musical reinvention that created a brand new major genre. Leonard Cohen: 7/10 It's pathetic. 9. Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 01/2/2019 @ 04:20am. All I ask is that you don't put Bon Jovi or Journey in last place. James Worthy, 56. Thanks, SHREK, for your bullshit opinion. 1997 Mahalia Jackson 1. 14. Their accolades are eerily similar, but I like Wade a little more. Mike Roberts WVEE-FM & WQMJ 2015 70. Jay-Z -Level 3 The Rolling Stones: 10/10 Steely Dan Parker was really, really good for a long time. Nirvana Jackson Browne: 7/10 Pete Maravich, 77. One of the BIGGEST factors in determining that elusive factor called "Influence", is : "How many artists have covered your songs". None of them were saints though. IMO Cream The Grateful Dead "(Come 'Round Here) I'm The One You Need " The Jackson 5, The Cowsills, The GP's Roy Orbison 7. 226. Stockton at 30 and CP3 at 42. Def Leppard 2/10 = Failure 227. Whitney Houston (Level 2) 2011 Posted by Kyle on Wednesday, 07/26/2017 @ 18:50pm. Best outside The US and UK: U2, Neil Young, Rush, Joni Mitchell, Bob Marley. Nina Simone: 9/10 54. The Allman Brothers Band The Stooges Outside of Madonna, 2008 was a stellar year. 5/10 = Average/Borderline DEFINITELY !! Level 5: Jackie Wilson: 10/10 Bernard King, 66. "You've Really Got a Hold on Me" Percy Sledge, Barbara McNair, The Beatles, The Temptations, The Supremes, The Zombies, Aidan Smith, Sonny & Cher, Mickey Gilley, Eddie Money, Cyndi Lauper, The Bobs, Greg Brown, Small Faces, Bobby McFerrin, Derrick Harriott, UFO8, and She & Him among many others. Black Sabbath and Queen again. Posted by Scott on Thursday, 10/8/2015 @ 16:53pm, Posted by Scott on Thursday, 10/8/2015 @ 16:55pm. 185. Bob Marley or Jimmy Cliff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Miracles_awards_and_achievements Deal wit' it, yo. David Bowie 13. Since this hasn't been updated since 2019, where do you think the 2020 and 2021 inductees rank in the Rock Hall pyramid? Level 3 Bon Jovi: 4/10 But the Celtics Brogdon is mounting a well-rounded campaign that hearkens back to some of the earliest Sixth Men. Level 1 The first few years were really good. 120. Back To The Future Artis Gilmore, 87. Peter Gabriel: 7/10 "Give Me Just Another Day" Young Jeezy (as the basis for his song, "Mr 17.5"), Schoolboy Q, Wade Waters, Christina Milian, Rick Ross, Marco Polo feat. The Mamas & The Papas: 6/10 Have at it. Foo Fighters-1, but since they're a first ballot HOFer 2 might be more befitting 173. The Cars He popularized the stretch 4 in some respects as he extended his range out towards the back half of The Heatles experiment. Curtis Mayfield & The Impressions did it YEARS before John Lennon. 2005 As a Beatle, sure, but definitely not as a solo artist. Depeche Mode-4 3) THE FOUR TOPS at # 79 "Going to a Go-Go" The Rolling Stones, Phil Collins, The Hags, and Secret Affair. As happy as I am with this year's ballot, I don't think any of these artists could place above a level 2. 33. Please answer the best you can. Recently Updated. Very, very influential among a myriad of genres and artists. achieve Hall of Fame status in. I mean does anyone (be honest) go home and listen to a Ramones record? 14. ELO, Joan Baez, Yes, Tupac Shakur, Journey, Pearl Jam, Bon Jovi, Dire Straits, Sister Rosetta Thorpe, The Cars, Nina Simone, Moody Blues. Whoopee. Peter Gabriel 181. -Civilized? Chic As for who I think next year will be: Nirvana, Deep Purple (long overdue, though I wouldn't complain if KISS went instead), some combination of The Cure/Depeche Mode/The Smiths, N.W.A., Chic, Posted by Sam on Thursday, 04/11/2013 @ 12:25pm. "The Tracks of My Tears " Linda Ronstadt, Aretha Franklin, Johnny Rivers, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Mongo Santamara, Martha and the Vandellas, Bryan Ferry, Bjrns Vnner (as Ser Jag Ut Att M Bra? The Pretenders (Level 2) Did they have transcendent songs and albums or memorable moments? They were the FIRST Motown group. Honestly, when you're talking about those three, any order you put 'em in could be justified. Alice Cooper to "Did they influence a lot of acts afterwards?" He was the 2nd best player on the Lakers teams from '08-'10, but didn't make the cut for the original Pyramid. I don't have a good reason to not have Westbrook here. Is Harden the NBAs best scorer since Michael Jordan? Eminem (Level 4) 143. Enigmaticus, I agree with you on moving Rush and The Moody Blues up a legion on two up. Tina Turner-Level 1 Donna Summer All the Indiana Jones films I was given first money of $2,000.000.00 US Dollars and on monthly basis am now paid $20,000.00 USDollars for working for the hood. Flags of the World El_Dandy Flags of the World: Progressively Harder El_Dandy NFL 30,000 Passing Yards, One Team . Favorite induction year: 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2006, 2013. Posted by Follower on Saturday, 01/19/2019 @ 16:38pm. "We've Come Too Far To End It Now"-The Escorts Most snubbed artist who is now an inductee (besides Rush and Alice Cooper*)? ZZ Top: 7/10 16. Eminem: 10/10 Bob Dylan: 10/10 Hall and Oates Jason Kidd (see above), 46. Joan Baez - 1 Gladys Knight and the Pips 8. 18. Most unworthy inductee: Percy Sledge, Prince, Madonna, Randy Newman, Laura Nyro. Update the pyramid. 45. Aerosmith: 9/10 I don't see Nine Inch Nails. Parliament - Funkadelic: 10/10 Skip to secondary content. KISS at the best online prices at eBay! 170. A subreddit dedicated to NBA news and discussion. These questions and more are broken down in our third Pyramid Podcast with Bills former Grantland colleague, ESPNs Zach Lowe. Tier 2 - Dire Straits, The Cars, Yes, ELO "I Second That Emotion" Japan, Michael McDonald, Kiki Dee, The Manhattan Transfer, Jerry Garcia, Diana Ross & the Supremes with the Temptations, 10db, Tammy Wynette, Jos Feliciano, Emilie, Stuck In The Middle, Thelma Jones. 1991 Howlin' Wolf Oh Wait, those dimwhits on the election committee have overlooked them again! ), Posted by Joe on Wednesday, 03/25/2020 @ 22:48pm. "Whole Lotta Shakin' In My Heart (Since I Met You)" The Hellacopters, Marv Johnson. Michael Jackson Donna Summer: 2 The Byrds Little Richard Bobby Darin: 5/10 ), Dolly Parton, Boyz II Men, Human Nature, among many others Posted by Yours Truly on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 22:40pm. "After All" The Supremes, The Marvelettes. P.S. ZZ Top Tier 3 - Tupac Shakur, Pearl Jam Still hasnt talked about a ton of the top guys. The 2011 Finals might be the single most impressive accomplishment by a NBA player in my lifetime. The Impressions: 7/10 Here is how the artists in the pyramid sit relative to the rest of the artists in rock and roll. " - See more at: http://whoisbigger.com/#sthash.msMujDin.dpuf, Posted by Darrin A on Sunday, 12/15/2013 @ 12:43pm. He's Level 4 by Isiah. 140. 48. Did the management of this establishment put you up to this? The Moody Blues Eurythmics: 7/10 Del Shannon 1986 Jimmy Yancey 162. "More Love" Kim Carnes, Paul Young, Barbara McNair, Mica Paris, The 5th Dimension, Rick Webb, Foster Sylvers. "The Tracks of My Tears " Linda Ronstadt, Aretha Franklin, Johnny Rivers, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Mongo Santamara, Martha and the Vandellas, Bryan Ferry, Bjrns Vnner (as Ser Jag Ut Att M Bra? REM and Tom Petty do, and they are two more acts Radiohead should not be ranked higher than. -Hard to say ultimately, it's really about the music and their commitment to it. Bowie is so upstream of many, many acts. The Buddy Holly Story [same thing here] Aladdin "Bad Girl" Dazz Band, Mary Wells, Jackie Jackson. Posted by John R.C. 200. 186. The Velvet Underground: 10/10 14. I've heard stories about Freddie's generosity, John Deacon was always a quiet guy who just got up there and played (doesn't do interviews anymore), while May and Taylor always come across well in interviews. 2017 The Moody Blues (This is an incomplete list, as songs by the Miracles continue to be covered by more artists each year) Miles Davis 168. You could even include acts who broke significant individual records (though, personally, I say no). "More, More, More of Your Love" Bob Brady & the Con Chords De Bravo, Little Willie G., Oran "Juice" Jones. Level 2: Bob Marley Thanks very much for your kind words , Nick !! The Moody Blues 1. Jay-Z and Biggie Smalls are in the most appropriate level. Martha and the Vandellas Blondie Here is Simmons' explanation of the idea (revised for Rock and Roll): So why couldn't we transform it into a five-level pyramid -- seriously, an actual pyramid, like a replica of the Luxor casino in Las Vegas -- where elected [artists] are assigned to different levels? Bill Simmonss new podcast breaks down the NBAs most important games, players, and teams, extending and reinventing his New York Times no. If he keeps pushing for 3-4 more years and the Warriors get back to being contenders and Steph stays as a Top 10 guy in the league, he's moving up into the Dirk range and maybe the Pantheon. 134. 69. Just asking for clarification. Topic: Bill Simmons NBA Hall of Fame Pyramid (Read 15787 times) chelo. Neil Young 59. Randy Newman (middle 2nd) 43. Lynyrd Skynyrd Dolph Schayes, 59. Current popularity and connection to grunge aside, Neil Young isn't worthy of the high ranking he's been afforded. "Commenting to Rolling Stone Magazine, Bob Seger said: "I used to go to the Motown Revues, and the Miracles always closed the show. 2Pac - 2 2) THE TEMPTATIONS at # 67 Radiohead: 10/10 4. For an Early Influence, I would pick Cab Calloway or The Ravens. [1] They also have the distinction of having more songs inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame than any other Motown group." Simmons believes that Nolan Ryan was a Tier 4 Baseball HoFer, while acknowledging that several people wouldn't put Nolan Ryan in the Hall at all." T. Rex (Level 2) 201. Bobby Dandridge. Simon & Garfunkel, I assume (or some doo-wop stuff). Underrated by casual fans as a defensive player, but did make All-D in '18-'19. The people who made a name IN Rock and Roll. 6/10 = Decent Artists "How many of YOUR favorites can boast of a list that LONG ???" That's Level 5. 9/10 = All Time Greats I would definitely say Bruce Springsteen, Aretha Franklin, and David Bowie should, maybe with Pink Floyd and Neil Young right behind sometime in the near future. Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 11/29/2016 @ 05:08am, Pearl Jam - level 3 "Who's Loving You" The Jackson 5, En Vogue, Terence Trent D'Arby, Brenda Holloway, The Supremes, The Temptations, Honey Cone, Stevie B., Archie Bell & the Drells, Nikka Costa. I am williams by name. 55. Tiny Archibald, 68. The Small Faces/Faces, The Hollies, and The Ventures That's it. Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers 196. HARDLY !! 91. Crosby Stills and Nash Public Enemy (lower 2nd) AC/DC The Staple Singers: 8/10 The (Young) Rascals 112. I'm coming up with a questionnaire/survey on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's inductees. Patti Smith: 9/10 Meanest inductee: John Fogerty, Axl Rose, Eddie Van Halen, Johnny Rotten, Jerry Lee Lewis, Mike Love. 3. He could've complained about being a 6th man, but didn't. Here are the questions: 2. 95. Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid ABA All-Time Team NBA & ABA All-Star Game All-Star Game Selections by Player All-NBA and All-NBA Team Selections by Player All-Defensive Team Selections by Player NBA Referee Awards Greg Willard Spirit Award NCAA Season Awards AP Player of the Year Award John R. Wooden Award Michael Jackson: 10/10 CCR: 9/10 The Miracles should be at Level 4. "Yester Love" Gerald Wilson & His Orchestra Do you have to consider them in any "best of all-time" discussions? "A Fork in the Road " Rebbie Jackson He's made 3 1st Team All-NBAs, but only made the playoffs twice (this year will be the 3rd). History of The World Part 1 "Come On Do The Jerk" The Righteous Brothers , The T-Bones Yeah, the Pyramid's bias toward 60s musicians is palpable. Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 05/8/2019 @ 06:56am. * This only goes to the Rockist group who mostly bash on these types of artist and keep saying that the formerly snubbed-artist should be in already. I'm really not surprised you could do that. Nicest: According to an Indianapolis limo driver who interviewed with the Indpls. The triple double was basically that Thunder team going out of their way to make it happen which is sort of disgraceful, but Westbrook was the second best guy on a Finals team and a few other conference finalists. So, since I've had some free time, I took it upon myself to update the original Hall of Fame Pyramid and figured I'd share. 39. 69. Little Richard, Metallica, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, AC/DC, and Van Halen would all qualify Inductee that should have been first-ballot (again, don't answer Rush*)? 57. c) their influence on guitar and drum techniques, painstaking production methods, song structure and use of electronic effects extends far, far, FAR beyond the realms of metal. Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 23:38pm. 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