The problem isnt that Furtick baptizes converts to Christianity. When we elevate (no pun intended) a teacher, preacher, leader, musician or band, were recommending them to people. In context, Furtick is teaching about how we see ourselves versus how God sees us. I appreciate you. You have permission to edit this article. Will you bring Matthew Henry into this category too? Do you agree with him that God broke the law for love, or do you think thats at least an inartful attempt to explain something true? What must I do to be saved,believe. Thats part of why Ive decided, after 24 years of having online discussions about Jesus, to go ahead and write about false teachers: so many have simply been deceived. Before reading this page, or any of the pages about specific people, I recommend that you read What is a False Teacher?, which explains what the Bible says about false teachers, and why I would bother to research who they are and what they say. And if a church were to simply remove the names of the musicians and only include the title, would this somehow make singing the songs ok? Yes, I agree with everything you said. You will RECEIVE salvation (passive voice). Ignite Gods Vision for Your Life. Youve spent many words pointing out that God can enable us to do things using His power. That does NOT mean that its okay to add to, or to take away from, ANY passage of Scripture. I have had an on again, off again relationship with my faith throughout the years. without the shedding of blood, there is no remission ( forgiveness, Hebrews 9:22). The power of God was in Nazareth, but it was trapped in their perspective. When Furtick preaches, he's apt to refer to a TV show as well as a biblical scene. But, and if any one, the closest would be, God did not heal Paul because, in His wisdom, had a purpose for Pauls suffering that resulted in greater glory for Himself than healing Paul could have accomplished. Their low self-esteem is why Jesus COULD NOT release the power of God, no matter how badly He wanted to. . Ill ask you, quite simple: do you agree with this statement made by Steven Furtick? It simply explains the nature of ritual purity. GO. My identity isnt a secret. It is all ONE God, not three different personalities, or persons. GodWords exists to point people in the direction of Scripture for all things, not to provide a place for everybody to say whatever they want. Do your own homework. Where is the Holy Spirit conviction , wheres the guidance of the Holy Spirit ? Its interesting that two verses after Paul wrote that, he wrote this: For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you. We are as youre aware saved by grace, through faith and this is NOT from ourselves, it is the gift of God. He likes to hear them and I think most people are that way. He's built a church empire with his "feel good" preaching, attractive worship, and excellent packaging. Im well, thanks. He created laws, then needed to break them because He didnt foresee the circumstances that would require Him to break the law. This is modalism, the same error that Furtick makes. Fried chicken, cornbread and cake what brings you back to this Charlotte restaurant. These men tend to teach extra biblical or unbiblical thoughts as truth. Thanks! These limits are self-imposed, of course and they are chosen to produce the best outcome. The one who breaks the Law is a sinner. I didnt cite the judgment part because I think he goes too far. This is an arm-in-arm kind of association, where theyre working toward the same goals in the same ways. He holds a master of divinity degree from Southern . (This collection of 100 awakened leaders who are using their voices and talent to elevate humanity also included Bishop T.D. The thief on the cross was a special case. All of Revelation? Increasingly, these young "Elevators" are bringing their curious parents. Gabriel, in. Passive voice: the subject is the recipient of the action, not the one who performs it. And from what you have quoted, has definitely made some statements that go beyond Scripture. See, up until now I have walked with you, but when I send my spirit, I will be in you. Also, seeds sown among thorns often prove unfruitful. First, He restrained His anger then, furious, He rejected Israel completely. What other, in your opinion, false teachers have you written about?? For example, in that same passage of Scripture, one might read into the passage the idea that Jesus may have been angry at His old neighbors and at His family. God would have been an abstract theory. Some laughed, some wiped away tears as the steady line of people headed for the changing rooms. We are not a spirit that has a soul and is living in a body. Thank you for writing this. The Word of God is God , and expression (sending forth) Gods own being just as your words are the sending forth of your own being in words, only you cant make your words take on human flesh and blood and walk around on the planet. Okay, I have taken enough of your time. There is ONE Spirit, ONE Lord, ONE God and FATHER of all who is above all and through all and in you all So yes, the Spirit in us IS the Father , and He IS the Son, ie the Word of God made flesh. The context here makes it clear that Jesus was referring to the prophecies in Revelation. The wine at the wedding in Cana was non-alcoholic. He did not make us multiple personality beings, but made us in HIS image. When pressed, however, the illogic is strong like saying that God, as the Son, prayed to Himself, sort of. Thats why I work hard to use Scripture and a false teachers own words, rather than just post my opinions about them. On that, modalists agree with the Bible. I dont NEED a cheering section, but your words are a big encouragement. Even Facebook has something like an 8,000 word limit. Its nice to meet you. Is it good or bad to point to unbiblical teaching? I see that you dont write to condemn him, but to objectively note his errors. Singular: just like in English, the number of subjects that the verb applies to. Just as a manipulating womanizer can say true things, false teachers can be kind, sincere, morally upright people. My children hear them and see them and agree sometimes and dont see the pitfalls. Again, My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness. Jesus, clearly, claimed to be God and His disciples taught that. Is that the language of the kingdom? This indepth info is showing a envy for his church and a single point of view. So, singing Jehovahs Witness songs would put licensing money in their pockets, furthering their ministry while promoting them as a source of good religious music. Because of the cares of the world, the deceitfulness of riches, and the desires for other things. While its true that our faith can prompt God to act, our lack of faith cannot prevent Him from acting if He wants to. Hes not alone, unfortunately. It literally means He came out from my inside the Father. (He is now listed as a co-writer of the songs from Elevation Worship, his churchs music team. Many through the years have been wrong, and yet many saved through their ministries. Jesus, in no sense, changed forms at the ascension. Furtick says some false things, but on this scripture, I will stand with collaborating scripture and Matthew Henry. It sounds like youre ready to help fix things too, which puts a smile on my face. In essence it means a single entity being comprised of multiple constituents. After having said that, I believe youre probably right. I dont mean that you might create a circumstance where God would be less than pleased about your cooperation with Him. Thanks for writing. No, I do not see it, as Furtick said of Jesus; He wanted to. If a man is truly born again, he has the Holy Spirit as his guide into all truth. I could list other verses that show the Holy Spirit is also distinct from the Father and Son, of course. Heres what we see: as with so many cults of Christianity, they share our vocabulary but they use their own dictionary. The blood of Jesus is far superior to the blood of animal sacrifices in the eyes of God, so much so that sacrifice of animals ceased being acceptable to him since the completion of the atoning work of his Son on the cross, Hebrews 9:11-14 We are talking about Furtick as a teacher and his interpretation of Matthew 13:58, yet Matthew Henry is a teacher, and said the very same thing, will you draw him into this category too? , I came back to this discussion because of a recent email on this subject, so I read your last statement again. Its all over the Gospels, for God is no respecter of persons Acts 10:34, as He only respects faith, Matthew 9:29. Part of the problem is that we humans are too often lazy, impulsive, greedy, self-absorbed, and pleasure-seeking. God, in, I know that you can do all things; no purpose of yours can be thwarted. To which quote are you referring? Moses said to God, Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, The God of your fathers has sent me to you, and they ask me, What is his name?Then what shall I tell them?, God said to Moses, I am who I am. Unfortunately, a number of prominent preachers espouse this false doctrine, and Furtick is among them. Using scripture to point out the errors. Thats not legal. When false teachers do it, they compound their misquotations with false theology doubling down on irresponsibility with more irresponsibility. Anyone who disagrees with what Furtick teaches must a) be envious, b) ignorant of how God has blessed his church, and c) a deceiver. If you have iTunes and it doesn't open automatically, try opening it from your dock or Windows task bar. Heres an example: Furtick has taught modalism. Every word that came out of His mouth was the Father speaking. Something you said reminded me of another misconception. Theres a technical and legal side to this, too. There are plenty of us out there. Furtick is the proud son of Larry Stevens Furtick (father) and Faith Furtick (mother). The laws, regulations, and guidelines we see in Scripture for both ancient Israel and for followers of Jesus are, historically speaking, universally understood to be a reflection of Gods character. He was making himself known by his visual works of power, as he told the evil hearted Scribes ; For whether is easier, to say, your sins be forgiven you; or to say, Arise, and walk? Its a waste of your time and mine. We who teach and I include myself are not in the same group as those who listen. He abandoned the tabernacle of Shiloh, He sent the ark into captivity, and so on. God did not break the Law, He followed it to the letter but, rather than punishing us, He punished Himself as a demonstration of love. Just yesterday I watched a clip of Jesse Duplantis, where he said (and I quote) You choose when you live, you choose when you die. He draws us to Himself, or we could not be saved. Does he teach the importance of obedience, Does he teach how important it is to get sin out of your life, Does he teach you how to build a close personal relationship with Jesus Christ. The home was valued at $1.78 million. I cant turn my back on those who come to me for help and many are looking for answers who will never send me an email. Some professing Christians have concluded from texts like this that human faith gives power to God. Here are 10 facts about him. Its at the very beginning of the video. Dont you think Mary and Martha were confused about why Jesus just hung out while Lazarus died? Zachariah didnt believe he could have a son at his advanced age it wasnt his faith that allowed God to give him John the Baptist. Do YOU believe that God is a molecular structure? Modalists claim that there is only one PERSON that is God, but the Bible describes three different persons as the ONE God. YES or NO. Sometimes, pastors make bad decisions. . Id rather say that hes a fantastic teacher, that he carefully studies Scripture and clearly communicates Gods Word to his audience. Then he started acting like a pastor, penciling in appointments in a date book with friends he hoped to convert. Elevation Church broadcasts live every weekend and on demand throughout the week on ElevationChurch.online Join us Sundays at 9:30AM, 11:30AM, 2:00PM, 5:00PM, 8:00PM, & 10:00PM ET Learn More Featured Offer As for, Do you, in any sense, have power over God? Paul said he was not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: Notice the connection between Power and faith Here are 10 facts about him. Certainly Gods actions are, at times, conditional. Normally, I strictly use a false teachers own words to explain why we should avoid them. And my God will convict you let you know the word is right or the word is wrong.. That is why we have the Holy Spirit when you discern what is right in the world and what is wrong in the world you are led by the spirit of God I disagree with you I believe that you are wrong doctor you are a fake preacher you should not get on this Social Media stuff and tell people things that you really dont know. Every time I hear some of steven furtick motivational speeches my heart each time is just tore up about it thank u for digging and honestly confirming what Ive always felt each time he opens his mouth normally missing the mark isnt some huge extravagant bald faced lie, its subtle hence surely you wont die but we just like Eve are looking through our humanistic evil eyes (Ayin) its never been a physical death, always a spiritual death, resulting in our separation from God! In other words, God mostly withheld His power from the stiff-necked people who held Jesus in contempt. Yet that is not true, for the word is clear; John 12:47 And if anyone hears My words and does notbelieve,I do not judge him; forI did not come to judge the world but to save the world. For many, it's the church's loud Christian rock music. Steven Furtick went about his get-ready ritual in a camper parked outside. You seem to think that the power is in US that speaking those words is what saves us. Their claim that God appears in different modes is both unbiblical and illogical. Its not that I cant identify error, its that I cant know someone elses motivation. As the founder and pastor of Elevation Church home of the popular Christian music group Elevation Worship he has a great amount of influence and a worldwide audience. Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christs power may rest on me (2 Corinthians 12:9) Apparently, Jesus and James and Jude and John and Peter and Paul thought that it was important to tell the churches to watch out for false teachers. His disciples did not. Give him time to think about what hes telling you, to review it in his mind. That statement is based solely on what we see in Scripture, with which anybody can and everybody should become familiar. Finally, suggesting that he may be engaging in circumincessionism doesnt necessarily make things better, or more orthodox. #2 debunked. Once your father expresses that modalism is false, and tells you what you should say to a friend who believes in modalism, you can say it back to him. When we read Revelation in full, we see that it is both a group of personal letters from Jesus to seven real-life churches in Asia Minor, and a prophetic vision given to John. Each of those analogies falls apart at some point, and fails to adequately explain what God is like. If God made a Law and then broke it, the Law is not based on His unchanging character but on His circumstances. That doesnt mean that people cant be confused by what God does the Bible is full of that. God's Got Your Back Part 2. God has existed in relationship with Himself for all eternity. Are you trying to defend Furtick against the claim that hes a false teacher? Does pointing to false teaching make one a Pharisee? My disagreement is in no sense an indication of dislike given the opportunity, Id love to buy you lunch and chat in person. Similarly, today a Doctor would tell a 21st century man to lay off coffee, an over used source of stomach (acid) trouble. Didnt He guide them into all truth, as you say He guides you? As founder and lead pastor, he has helped grow the multi-site Elevation Church. Steven Furtick earned a Master of Divinity degree from the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. He was able to. Its good that I leave in physical form because then I can give you in spiritual form, then I can direct you from a deeper place.. Of course, youve already made up your mind. We are like Him in some ways, but not in others. Yeah never: His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. Matthew 9:29. What can we say about these people? ), 5. I would rather be saved , on my way to heaven and be ignorant of some biblical truths than be a man of knowledge but yet unconverted. With all due respect, Word of Faith teachers ALWAYS demote God and elevate us. That he has not suggests that he stands by his statements, which is why Ive shared them here. Was recently listed as the fifth most powerful person in town by Charlotte magazine. When Furtick claims that Jesus was UNABLE to do ANY miracles because the power of God was trapped in the unbelief of humans, he contradicts Gods Word. I would love to amend their article to show that they have changed what they teach. You and I arent Job, or Moses, or Jesus. If Steven Furtick IS a false teacher, it would be irresponsible to ignore the evidence. Truly, thats implied throughout both the Old Testament and the New Testament and its one of the ways we know which teachings are true and which are false. I dont have a definitive answer. I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. Anyone who welcomes a false teacher shares in their wicked work, right? Thanks for writing! When a man spends this much time in attempt to rip down another mans character down. This does not match what we see in Scripture. First: the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are properly understood as God. Sure, it is noted he was not appreciated in his home turf, but bottom line, Jesus himself marvelled at their unbelief, which is another way of saying, lack of faith, which has a lot to do with receiving things from God, even salvation as, he gave power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: John 1:12. Right, John 5 speaks to Jesus ministry, doing his Father work verse 17, again in Acts 10:38, going about healing all who were oppressed of the devil . Paul didnt speak faith-filled words to manifest in the physical the reality that he had already been healed in the spiritual. The power of God was in Nazareth, but it was trapped in their perspective. Its CRUCIAL that we avoid going further than God went in making claims about Him. Its clear that God does some miracles on the basis of a persons faith, and that God does some miracles independent of anyones faith. Provoking conversation to say the least. PO Box 1679, Fort Mill, SC 29716 | Customer Service: 1-877-857-2244 | Orders: 1-888-777-1896. Why did he always defer to the Father, and not himself? Recently, I was watching a message by Pastor Steven Furtick, who is a fellow Southern Baptist Church planter and senior pastor of Elevation Church, which is also affiliated with the same. Ps. We absolutely do know, should know, can know. 3. We dont have souls we ARE souls, which is a combination of the physical and the spiritual. That doesnt undo or excuse false teaching, of course. "I want our services to be inspirational" in Charlotte, North Carolina. May God save his soul if he doesnt know Christ and may God give His children eyes to see and ears to hear. I hope not. There seem to be a lot of controversies/criticisms about Steven Furtick and Elevation church doctrines and also rumors of false teaching. Gentleness and respect (1 Peter 3:15) is important. For with the heart man believes unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Where the Bible isnt clear, we should hold loosely to the ideas that we come up with about who God is, how He operates, and why. Do you agree with Furtick that God is a molecular structure that fills all in all? Jesus, in, Is anything too hard for the Lord? Im not sure why, at this point, youre still not acknowledging that this specific thing that Furtick taught is false. Of the many false things they preach, these are two things I hear the most: 1) Jesus healed everyone he encountered. He has aided the multi-site Elevation Church into a global ministry through online streaming, television as well as the music of Elevation Worship. Not trying to cause a gunfight, just asking. Just what is the criteria in establishing if someone is a false teacher. Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. The only one who has the right to say if Im a true man of God is God himself, and if I wasnt called by God I will fall. Ive included a funny video below that you might like. Pastor Steven Furtick (left), of Elevation Church, and Pastor Terrell Murphy, of New Birth Charlotte, pray together before a large crowd at the close of a shared service for the two churches at Cricket Arena in Charlotte, N.C. Furtick and staffers get together in a camper parked next to Providence High as they prepare for a Sunday sermon. Finally, the idea that God fills all in all isnt simply unbiblical. We would also be able to identify any error, about anything, instantly. What do you think? By itself, thats not bad at all. And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll. In this case, to anyone and everyone. I have friends who were conceived because their mothers were raped. See, John 14:17 for he dwells with you (old testament), and shall be in you (new testament). So, then how much greater exploits, Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. What power? Furtick follows in the footsteps of false teachers like Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, and Joyce Meyer by claiming that we are just like God, or just like Jesus. Im sorry to hear about your crisis of faith, truly. Now it's your turn to get dunked, he told the crowd, wheeling out a cart loaded with shorts, T-shirts, flip-flops, sports bras, boxers and more. 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